A purple haze of financial logic? [link]
😎 Parsing out troll speak: "Anonymous January 13, 2026 at 10:32 AM"
1) "I do understand the financial mechanics. CU mergers are balance sheet combos, not buy/sell with consideration. Capital, after a mark to market of A&L of the merged credit union, is combined, not lost."
✔ Response: Less than half an understanding. "Buy and sell" is an explicitly legal option. CUs may simply sell all their assets in the free market, for fair value and distribute the remaining reserves/equity to member-owners. (You do know that, right?) A give-away is not the only choice.
2) "I also know enough to know you are correct. In each cu deal, a merged and surviving or continuing cu must be designated. A smaller CU can be the surving cu. A charter distinction, though. Doesn’t mean the surviving smaller cu ELT and board will be in charge - those a part of negotiated terms. "
✔ Response: : Thank you for acknowledging ("you are correct...") that a much smaller CU can readily acquire a much larger CU. There are hundreds of CUs and banks which could acquire SECU today, if the Board wanted to sell out.
3) "Think about it in reality, though. Let’s say SAFE was the surviving CU. New CU will be called SAFE, CA HQ, BECU gets one board seat, and they retain one BECU ELT. Think BECU board approves that?
✔ Response: Why not? SAFE is operating at a much lower cost and any other benefits of merging are the same. It certainly doesn't rain as much in Sacramento... and the Napa valley vineyards are closer!
4) "Think members vote for it?"
✔ Response: Sure! Re-read BECU's glowing press release on a "merger of equals" [link]. Benefits to BECU members are identical. 'Course the way you phrase it, the BECU board gets canned... but this is not about them, is it?
5) "Think regulators will approve that?"
✔ Response: Why wouldn't they? Who loses when credit union members win?
6) "Appreciate your points of what’s legally possible versus viable. Both your scenarios, of 100% of a merged cu capital being paid out and a huge CU being merged into a CU 1/10 its size, a so incredibly far-fetched and disconnected from reality they won’t happen, Also would depend on pure negligence, stupidity and breaches of duty by groups large and small."
✔ Response: In our SAFE/BECU example you say: "...would
depend on pure negligence, stupidity and breaches of duty by groups
large and small." Which "groups" are you talking about here?
5) "BTW, if SAFE acquired BECU where does BECU’s capital go? Fleeced from BECU’s 1.6 million members and given to SAFE’s members? "
✔ Response: What's the issue, it's all kumbaya capital anyway, right? Wouldn't Jefferies approve it? ("Of important note was that BECU had hired the global investment firm Jefferies, LLC "[link])
Describing a CU merger proposal as "pure negligence, stupidity and breaches of duty"... well, whoa now!
You didn't answer question #5: "Where does BECU capital go?"
ReplyDelete3:29pm Well, to California obviously!
DeleteWill spare you the full troll rant response, amile long, two inches in depth. Except for this one which is important that the troll doesn't know:
Delete"2) You might elaborate on what sell out means. SECU, as a full entity cannot sell itself to another credit union."
Dead wrong. A credit union can sell itself to another credit union.
As they say, "hard to teach an old troll, new tricks".
6:42pm You’re just wrong. As always, you can say someone else is wrong but you can’t say why
Delete8:33pm Troll trash!!! As typcal, wasting everyone else's time and patience... duck back under that rock, please!
DeleteAccording to NC state law:
"§ 54-109.21. General powers.
A credit union may...
(10) Sell all or substantially all of its assets or purchase all or substantially all of the assets of another financial institution, subject to the approval of the Administrator of Credit Unions;"
Now, say night night...
Troll-rant continued all night! EverReady!
DeleteExcerpt: "We aren’t insured by the state genius. You might look at 12 CFR Part 708b of NCUA regs…NCUA regs trump the state. You’re are 100% wrong."
Think that one's kinda over the deep edge. Been disappointed at times that our state CU regulator Kristina Ray seems reluctant to act, but pretty sure she is legally in charge of SECU.
Does she agree that the state CU Division is just some sort of Christmas tree ornament? Perhaps our troll should let her know...
“Legally in charge of SECU”. God that’s rich. Please site your sources for this and no, your own misinformed opinion on the powers of the NCCUD administrator do not apply. Make sure you use facts.
DeleteTrying to follow. Which post said “legally in charge of secu”? What do you even mean?
Delete4:02 pm Acting a bit frenetic and a-troll-cious!
DeleteSECU is a state-chartered credit union, established, governed, and regulated under North Carolina law.
Now get some rest... "Goodnight moon, goodnight....little troll in the green room..."
I genuinely feel bad for the sheep that follow this blog
ReplyDelete12:50am !!! Bit obsessive to be making a troll comment in the middle of the night, don't you think?
DeletePerhaps you were counting sheep....
But anyway b-a-a, b-a-a, b-a-a to all that.